Favourite Personalities of the SYW and related period

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Favourite Personalities of the SYW and related period

Post by Pz. Ferdinand » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:21 am

Thought this might be an interesting thread. Anyone like to nominate their favourite characters and why? Not necessarily generals or rulers, but anyone that appeals to you for whatever reason and might be of interest to others. I`m sure the Cardinal would have some interesting candidates.

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Post by Cardinal Biggles » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:35 am

Well John Manners , Maquis of Granby is a favourite, and a much more scurrilous fellow , Wlliams or Williamson...I actually think reference was made to him in Barry Lyndon.
Frei Korps commander Quintus Icilus, some of the more roguish types appeal to me..I haven't quite got going this morning and feel a bit unwell so I will wait till I am fired up a bit..Redmond Barry of course, more interesting in the book than the movie ..sounds like Eugen of Wurtemberg bears consideration, aSwabian ratbag always bears examination..

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Post by Captn Ewald » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:51 pm

Very droll Cardinal...namesake aside...and what a good lad he was, brave, intelligent, a hater of rebels, an author and deep thinker, my vote goes to dear old von Kliest...a regular officer who raised and trained a group of brigands which caused problems for friends and foe alike. Worthy of a brigade in that M & R campaign which keeps rumbling along.

Besides, some years ago the Prinz deployed the entire force of von Kliest in a mini campaign, complete with band only to have it run away when the austrian cavalry arrived by chance if I can recall.

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Post by Pz. Ferdinand » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:38 am

Well, there was a lot of Austrian cavalry- and not where they were meant to be.

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Post by Captn Ewald » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:35 pm

We had three battles in a day if I can recall...must have been young and keen to manage all that. A reprise would be fun - maybe next games weekend I could organise another version of von Kliest rides again!

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Post by Cardinal Biggles » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:14 am

another character who always caught my imagination
Luckner
Luckner was the son of the son of an innkeeper and hop dealer of Cham which is located in the poor, heavily forested Upper Palatinate.. He received his early education from the Jesuits in Passau and studied at the university of Ingolstadt.

In 1737, Luckner entered the Bavarian Army where he served with the Infantry Regiment Morawitzky. By 1745 he was a lieutenant-colonel in the Ferrari Hussars. He then entered the Dutch service.

In 1757 Luckner, along with 54 of his hussars, left the Dutch service to join the Hanoverian army. First, as Rittmeister, he raised a troop of hussars , which took his name (Luckner's Hussars). Luckner rose in rank each year, Lieutenant-Colonel in 1758, Colonel in 1759, Major-General in January of 1760 (adding the title "von") and Lieutenant-General in 1761.

In 1763, immediately after the war, Luckner accepted an appointment in the French Army as Lieutenant-General and command of the Regiment Bourgogne.

In 1784, Luckner was made a Danish count.

With the French Revolution, Luckner was promoted, in 1791, to Marshal of France.

In 1792, Luckner first served as commander of the Army of the Rhine, during which time Rouget de Lisle dedicated to him the Chant de Guerre pour l'Armée du Rhin, which was to become better known as the Marseillaise. As commander of the Army of the North he captured the Flemish cities of Menen and Kortrijk, but then had to retreat towards Lille. After the flight of Lafayette, he was made generalissimo with orders to build a Reserve Army near Châlons-sur-Marne. However, the National Convention was not satisfied with his progress and Choderlos de Laclos was ordered to support or replace him. Luckner, now over 70 years of age, then asked for dismissal. The same year, after resigning, Luckner pressed his claim for pension on a bankrupt regime and headed to Paris.

Under suspicion with the radicals, who were now in power, and, having become a Danish Count in 1784, Luckner suffered the fate of many who held a title: he was arrested by the Revolutionary Tribunal and sentenced to death. He died by the guillotine in Paris on January 1794, aged 71.

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Post by Pz. Ferdinand » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:59 pm

some governments will go to any lengths to avoid paying a pension!

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Post by Cardinal Biggles » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:37 pm

and hanging out with that Laclos, a bit of a dangerous liason.

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Post by Cardinal Biggles » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:18 pm

and who can ever forget
The Prince William, Duke of Cumberland (William Augustus[1]; 26 April 1721[2][N.S.] – 31 October 1765) was a younger son of George II of Great Britain and Caroline of Ansbach, and a military leader.
Early life
He was born in Leicester House, Leicester Fields (now Leicester Square), London, where his parents had moved after his grandfather, George I, was invited to take the British throne. His godparents included The King and The Queen in Prussia (his paternal aunt), but they apparently didn't appear, probably represented by proxy/ies. On 27 July 1726[4], at only four-years-old, he was created Duke of Cumberland, Marquess of Berkhamstead in the County of Hertford, Earl of Kennington in the County of Surrey, Viscount of Trematon in the County of Cornwall, and Baron of the Isle of Alderney. The young prince was educated well (his tutor was his mother's favourite Andrew Fountaine), becoming his parents' favourite (so much so that his father would later consider ways of making him his heir in preference over his eldest brother, Frederick, Prince of Wales). At Hampton Court Palace, apartments were designed specially for him by William Kent.


Military career
From childhood, he showed physical courage and ability. He was intended, by the King and Queen, for the office of Lord High Admiral, and, in 1740, he sailed, as a volunteer, in the fleet under the command of Sir John Norris, but he quickly became dissatisfied with the Navy, and, early in 1742, he began an Army career. In December 1742, he became a Major-General, and, the following year, he first saw active service in Persia. George II and the "martial boy" shared in the glory of the Battle of Dettingen (27 June 1743), and Cumberland, who was wounded in the action, was reported as a hero in Britain, thus founding his military popularity. After the battle he was made Lieutenant-General.


Battle of Fontenoy
In 1745, having been made Captain-General of the British land forces, at home and in the field, the Duke was again in Flanders, as Commander-in-Chief of the allied British, Hanoverian, Austrian and Dutch troops. Advancing to the relief of Tournay, which was besieged by Marshal Saxe, he engaged the great general, in the Battle of Fontenoy, on 11 May 1745 in which he was decidedly defeated by the French under Saxe. Cumberland lost several engagements on continental Europe against the French.

As the leading British general of the day, he was chosen to put a decisive stop to the successful career of Charles Edward Stuart, known as the Young Pretender, in the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745.

Recalled from Flanders, Cumberland proceeded with his preparations for quelling the insurrection. He joined the midland army under Ligonier, and began pursuit of the enemy, but the Stuart's retreat from Derby disrupted his plans, and it was not until they had reached Penrith, and the advanced portion of his army had been repulsed on Clifton Moor, that Cumberland became aware of just how hopeless an attempt to overtake the retreating Highlanders would then be. Carlisle having been retaken, he retired to London, until the news of the defeat of Hawley at Falkirk roused again the fears of the English people, and centred the hopes of Britain on the Duke. He was appointed commander of the forces in Scotland.


"Butcher Cumberland"
Arriving in Edinburgh on 30 January 1746, he at once proceeded in search of the Young Pretender. He made a detour to Aberdeen, where he spent some time training the well-equipped forces now under his command for the peculiar nature of the warfare in which they were about to engage. He prepared his army to withstand the aggressive charges on which all Highland successes depended and he reorganised the forces and restored their discipline and self-confidence.

On 8 April 1746, he set out from Aberdeen, towards Inverness, and, on 16 April, he fought the decisive Battle of Culloden, in which the forces of the Young Pretender were completely destroyed. the Jacobite army, starving and exhausted, made a final desperate stand against the British army who were far better trained, equipped and in far better condition. Cumberland then proceeded to hound the remaining remnants into the abyss and ordered his troops to show no quarter against any remaining Jacobite soldiers. The highlands were ravaged in the years to come by the merciless British troops who showed no compassion and committed near genocide in the Scottish highlands. "Butcher Cumberland".This taunt was used for political purposes in England, and Cumberland's own brother, the Prince of Wales (who had been refused permission to take a military role on his father's behalf), seems to have encouraged the virulent attacks upon the Duke. Like Oliver Cromwell in Ireland, Cumberland dared to act in a way which would be held against him by some for the rest of his life, and terrorised an obstinate and unyielding enemy into submission. How real the danger of a protracted guerilla war in the Highlands was may be judged from the explicit declarations of Jacobite leaders that they intended to continue the struggle. As it was, the war came to an end almost at once, and most of the populations of Scotland, England, and the colonies, however, lionised him as their deliverer from the Jacobite menace - for instance, he received an honorary degree from the University of Glasgow.

Cumberland preserved the strictest discipline in his camp. He was inflexible in the execution of what he deemed to be his duty, without favour to any man. At the same time, he exercised his influence in favour of clemency in special cases that were brought to his notice. Some years later, James Wolfe spoke of the Duke as "for ever doing noble and generous actions".

The Duke's victorious efforts were acknowledged by his being voted an income of £40,000 per annum, in addition to his revenue as a Prince of the Royal House. The Duke took no part in the Flanders campaign of 1746, but, in 1747, he again opposed the still-victorious Marshal Saxe and received a heavy defeat at the Battle of Lauffeld, or Val, near Maastricht, on July 2, 1747.


Peacetime
During the ten years of peace from 1748, Cumberland occupied himself chiefly with his duties as Captain-General, and the result of his work was clearly shown in the conduct of the army in the Seven Years' War. His unpopularity, which had steadily increased since Culloden, interfered greatly with his success in politics, and when the death of the Prince of Wales brought the latter's son, a minor, next in succession to the throne, the Duke was not able to secure for himself the contingent regency, which was vested in the Dowager Princess of Wales, who considered him an enemy.


The Seven Years' War
In 1757, the Seven Years' War having broken out, Cumberland was placed at the head of a motley army of allies led by Great Britain to defend Hanover. At the Battle of Hastenbeck, near Hamelin, on 26 July 1757, he was defeated by the superior forces of d'Estrées. In September of the same year, his defeat had almost become disgrace. Driven from point to point, and at last hemmed in by the French, under Richelieu, he capitulated at Zeven monastery, on 8 September 1757, agreeing to evacuate Hanover. He played a major role as second-in-command to Duke Ferdinand of Brunswick later in the war.


Later life
His disgrace was completed on his return to England by the refusal of his father, George II, to be bound by the terms of the Duke's agreement. In chagrin and disappointment, he retired into private life, having formally resigned the public offices he held. In his retirement, he made no attempt to justify his conduct, applying in his own case the discipline he had enforced in others. For a few years, he lived quietly at Cumberland Lodge in Windsor and subsequently in London, taking but little part in politics. He did much, however, to displace the Bute ministry and that of Grenville, and endeavoured to restore Pitt to office. Public opinion had now set in his favour, and he became almost as popular as he had been in his youth. After the accession of his nephew, George III, he vied with his sister-in-law, the Dowager Princess of Wales, for the role of regent in times of emergency. Shortly before his death, the Duke was requested to open negotiations with Pitt for a return to power. This was, however, unsuccessful.

The Duke passed away suddenly on Upper Grosvenor Street in London, on October 31, 1765 apparently from a myocardial infarction brought on by his life-long obesity, at the age of 44. He was buried beneath the floor of the nave of the Henry VII Lady Chapel in Westminster Abbey.

Titles, styles, honours and arms

Titles and styles
26 April 1721–27 July 1726: His Royal Highness Prince William[1]
27 July 1726–31 October 1765: His Royal Highness The Duke of Cumberland

Honours
British Honours

KG: Knight of the Garter, 1730
KB: Knight of the Bath, 1725
PC: Privy Counsellor, 1742
Cumberland Farms was named on his behalf.

Academic

1751-1765: Chancellor of Trinity College, Dublin

Arms
On 20 July 1725, as a grandchild of the sovereign, William was granted use of the arms of the realm, differenced by a label argent of five points, the centre point bearing a cross gules, the first, second, fourth and fifth each bearing a canton gules. On 30 August 1727, as a child of the sovereign, William's difference changed to a label argent of three points, the centre point bearing a cross gules.[5]


Legacy

The tabard of Blanc Coursier Herald, Cumberland's private officer of arms The Scottish Highland town of Fort Augustus takes its name from a British Army fort which was named in his honour.

Many places in the American colonies were named after him, including the Cumberland River, the Cumberland Gap, the Cumberland Plateau, and the Cumberland Mountains, in addition to several counties and towns named "Cumberland" in the mid-18th century.


Biography
A Life of the Duke of Cumberland by Andrew Henderson was published in 1766, and anonymous (Richard Rolt) Historical Memoirs appeared in 1767. See especially A. N. Campbell Maclachlan, William Augustus, Duke of Cumberland (1876).
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