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Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Admin Fella » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:15 pm

Well I know it has been ages since this area has had any use.

I recently had my first game of Bolt Action in 28mm. I am still a 20mm person at heart, but was quite taken by the rules and skirmish type theme of these rules. I also thought BA would be a great set of rule for the Kokoda Campaign and started thinking about doing Australian Militia in 28mm, based around the earlier discussion had here. I still intend on doing Militia in 20mm, but thought 28mm Militia is something also not done and would be great to see as well!

I would like to generate some discussion on 28mm Militia and what people may like to see. I am also considering some sort of pre purchase scheme to help me fund the essentially commit some $$ which will give you a scaled discount on purchasing the figures when they are made available. Would there be any interest in this to help move the project along??

My initial thoughts are a command pack with the below officer, a 2nd officer advancing with pistol drawn and a digger with rifle holding a field telephone.

I would also do a LMG pack with Lewis Machine Gun, rifleman skirmishing and riflemen advancing. A casualty pack of medic and digger being helped by local carrier. Also Thompson SMG and Bren LMG figures. There would be a mix of equipment, clothing and head gear.

Here is the first figure an Officer:

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Please post and discuss! :)

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Dropbear » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:19 pm

The figure looks great. I would be very interested to see one painted up.

At the moment I have a very limited budget to help with the funding... I am about to get married and also need a car, but I would chip in if the budget allows.

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Qman » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:36 pm

Looks good mate.
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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by christo » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:51 pm

I'm in

What sort of dollars are you after?

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Admin Fella » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:55 pm

Ok, well I was hoping to generate a bit of conversation about this proposed range. With that I will be a little more specific in what I am thinking with an initial layout of the figures. This range would cover up to 43.

As to look, while officers did their best to remain clean and well presented, soldiers should convey a worn and ragged look wherever possible. Some would be missing pieces of equipment and while similar their would be a lack of uniformity.

Pack 1. Command
Figure 1: Officer, commander, Khaki Drill Shorts and Shirt, 37 webbing, boots and socks, reasonably well presented under circumstances, pointing with stick. (As pictured).
Figure 2: Officer, helmet, Khaki Drill shorts and shirt, 37 webbing, boots/socks, advancing with revolver out.
Figure 3: Soldier, standing with rifle slung, holding field telephone, with hand piece to ear. helmet, Khaki Drill shorts and shirt, 37 webbing, boots/socks

Pack 2. Riflemen 1
Figure 4: Rifleman Advancing with rifle at hip, Bayonet fixed. Bombay Bloomers, turned up at knee. Khaki Shirt. Helmet, 37 webbing. Shirt spilled over shorts, Standard British Putees, strapped tightly. Poncho wrapped up and slung by piece of cord over shoulder.
Figure 5: Riflemen kneeling with rifle into shoulder looking for target. Khaki shorts with torn edges, helmet, 37 webbing, WWI era Light Horse leggings. .303 Bandolier slung.
Figure 6: Rifleman advancing, slightly crouched (trying to make for a smaller target). Slouch Hat, Khaki shirt (open at front showing undershirt) and shorts, 37 webbing, .303 bandolier slung across chest.

Pack 3. Riflemen 2
Figure 7: Rifleman advancing with rifle into shoulder. Helmet, Khaki Drill shorts and shirt, 37 webbing, boots/socks. Clothing and equipment should look ragged and worn. .303 Bandolier slung across body.
Figure 8: Rifleman left foot forward, reloading rifle. Khaki Drill shorts and 37 webbing, helmet, boots/socks. Bedroll with cord over shoulder, Japanese entrenching tool hooked onto belt.
Figure 9: Rifleman advancing with rifle across body. Khaki Drill shorts and 37 webbing, helmet, boots/socks. .303 bandolier slung.

Pack 4. Medic/Wounded Pack
Figure 10: Medic, with one hand on medic bag and other holding bandage. Khaki Drill shorts and 37 webbing, helmet, boots/socks.
Figure 11 & 12: Wounded digger, no webbing, no helmet, shirt/shorts with shirt open, being helped by local carrier.

Pack 5. Bren Gun Team
Figure 13: Attacking Bren gunner, moving forward aggressively while firing his Bren gun from the hip, while shouting out. http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/013285
Figure 14: Loader, advancing, holding his rifle (no bayonet) against his shoulder, looking for targets, but not yet aiming it at something. The long bag for the Bren gun containing the extra barrel and magazines is slung across his right shoulder.

Pack 6. Lewis Gun Team
Figure 15: Lewis gunner, advancing in a determined fashion (could be patrolling or attacking). Holding his Lewis gun in front of him, holding it with both hands, Lewis bipod folded down. Slouch Hat, khaki shorts/shirt, Light Horse Pattern leggings.
Figure 16: Loader, satchel over shoulder for ammo drums, advancing with rifle across body. Bombay Bloomers folded at knees, 37 pattern webbing, helmet. boots with US style gaiters worn.

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Admin Fella » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:15 pm

christo wrote:I'm in

What sort of dollars are you after?
Hey Mate

I am still weighing up how to do this. As i mentioned I had planned to do this myself anyway, but with interested people contributing there is the potential to do it in a more timely fashion, hopefully by CanCon (otherwise time line in unknown).

I am considering a kickstarter, but it is not available in Australia yet.

Otherwise I am looking to use my site. I would make it as simple as possible with a voucher purchase system such as:

$40 gets you $45 worth of figures from WarTime Miniatures Ranges.
$50 gets you $60 worth of figures from WarTime Miniatures Ranges.
$75 gets you $100 worth of figures from WarTime Miniatures Ranges.
$100 gets you $140 worth of figures from WarTime Miniatures Ranges.

Purchase would be via PayPal. You may withdraw and receive a full refund prior to each stage being reached. I.E. If you commit $50 and it takes 2 weeks to reach next stage, you have 2 week "cooling off period" to ask for refund. After that your committed.

To commission all the figures above, I would need approximately $2600. That is less than actual cost, but I will cover the difference.

Funds committed would unlock each pack in stages.

Pack 1 I will fund myself and is automatically unlocked.

Pack 2 at $600

Pack 3 at $1,000

Pack 4 at $1,500

Pack 5 at $2,000

Pack 6 at $2,600

If we reached the $2,000 mark I would commission a character figure (yet to be determined) that would be made available for all those who contribute for free. Suggestions for this figure could also be put in by those who contribute.

I would have to set a final date to close this for any CanCon release (to ensure time for sculpting/moulding/casting). Post Cancon 2014 releases could be negotiated.

As mentioned, these are just my thoughts and ideas and I welcome discussion and suggestions to build on this.

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Dropbear » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:26 pm

Kickstarter is coming to Australia "soon":http://www.kickstarter.com/australia

There is "Pozible" running in Australia: http://www.pozible.com/

and there is always "Indiegogo" which I have used as it accepts paypal, unlike Kickstarter:http://www.indiegogo.com/


This Aussie blog covers crowdfunding info as well: http://www.crowdfundit.com.au/

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Post by Admin Fella » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:18 pm

Yep Kickstarter soon.

I believe Indiegogo fees apply whether you raise the funds or not, so not too keen on that one.

Will check the others out.

Otherwise I will run it via my own site, which is easier for me if there is enough support for it.

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Post by Admin Fella » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:40 pm

I have decided to take the plunge with this project and launched it via my own site.

http://wartimeminiatures.com.au/index.php?cPath=90

Everything you need to know (i hope) is there, so if your interested in this subject, please jump on board!

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by christo » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:34 pm

I have put some money in, really looking forward to this..... :D

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Post by Admin Fella » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:16 am

christo wrote:I have put some money in, really looking forward to this..... :D
Thanks mate and that has allowed me to open the next pack already!

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Admin Fella » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:39 pm

There is also an NCO pack with Thompson SMG's to be added.

Question is: M1928A1 or M1A1 Thompson?? either?

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Post by Dropbear » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:21 pm

Admin Fella wrote:
Question is: M1928A1 or M1A1 Thompson?? either?
A quick bit of research didn't come up with any help, so I will go through my AWM pictorical hsitory books and see what I can come up with to help answer this one.

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Post by Admin Fella » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:26 pm

Thanks mate. :)

I did have advice maybe the M1928A1, but it would be nice to be sure.

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Post by Admin Fella » Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:38 pm

Work is about to start on the 2nd Officer figure.

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Post by Dropbear » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:32 am

Ok from what I have found in a five volumn pictorial historty put out by the AWI the M1928A1 is the way to go, not that there were many photos to go on.

I found a grand total of two photos of the M1A1 - one used during training in Australia, and the other in New Guinea some time in 1943.

I found about five or six showing the M1928A1 - one in Africa, and the rest in New Guinea prior to mid/late 1943.

Based on my flimsy research attempt, I would say the M1928A1 was the way to go for this range.

There were a lot more photos of the Owen gun than the Thompson, but I can't recall any of the captions mentioning Militia units with these. I can go back and check if you like.

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Post by Admin Fella » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:06 pm

Thanks mate, I think we will run with the M1928A1.

Appreciate you having a look. :)

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Admin Fella » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:37 pm

Pack 3 of this project has now been opened.

Pack 3. Riflemen 2
Figure 7: Rifleman advancing with rifle into shoulder. Helmet, Khaki Drill shorts and shirt, 37 webbing, boots/socks. .303 Bandolier slung across body.
Figure 8: Rifleman left foot forward, reloading rifle. Khaki Drill shorts and 37 webbing, helmet, boots/socks. Bedroll with cord over shoulder, Japanese entrenching tool hooked onto belt.
Figure 9: Rifleman advancing with rifle across body. Khaki Drill shorts and 37 webbing, helmet, boots/socks. .303 bandolier slung.

This is great news and due to some well above expected contributions by a few who believe in this range.

I hope more will get involved and see this range available by the set time frame as well as taking advantage of some great offers!

http://wartimeminiatures.com.au/index.p ... 536c1c0ba1

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P.S: Work has begun on the 2nd Officer figure for pack 1.

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by christo » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:46 pm

Great work Matt....


Looking forward to it

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Admin Fella » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:32 am

Quick update.

Pack 4 is almost funded! This is great and bodes well for us getting to packs 5 and 6. Just need a couple more to contribute to see this next pack reached.

Pending how we move towards pack 5 and 6 I will add:

Pack 7 - NCO's with Thompson (3 figures).
Pack 8 - Vickers MMG
Pack 9 - Medium Mortar + Crew
Pack 10 - Diggers Armed with Sticky Bomb and Boyes Anti Tank Rifle.

Details still to be determined, but I will list specifics once we get closer to the initial goals.

Masters for the Enfield SMLE and Lewis Gun are almost complete as well.

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by christo » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:29 pm

Great news, lets hope we can get this in the time frame.....

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Re: Australians for Kokoda in 28mm

Post by Sarah Jane » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:10 am

Thanks Mathew for this great project.

May I suggest two things.

Firstly, swap around the Medic with the Bren pack as this allows for gamers to have a section to game with.

Show a photograph of different WW2 miniatures (mainly aimed at Pacific and Desert) to show scale and size comparison.

How much more is required for the next pack to be open?

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Post by Admin Fella » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:21 pm

Hey Helen

About $60 short for the next pack.

Good suggestion for the pack order, I will look to change it.

Sculptor advised today masters for the SMLE and Lewis are complete and on the way to me. I will get the moulded as soon as they arrive and shipped back. Things should move more noticeably once he has rifles etc.

Hopefully I will have a pic of the 2nd officer as well in the coming days.

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Post by Admin Fella » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:32 pm

Pack 4 is now funded! :)

Also changed the packs around as suggested, which I think makes for a smoother path of development.

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Post by Sarah Jane » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:38 pm

Admin Fella wrote:Hey Helen

About $60 short for the next pack.

Good suggestion for the pack order, I will look to change it.

Sculptor advised today masters for the SMLE and Lewis are complete and on the way to me. I will get the moulded as soon as they arrive and shipped back. Things should move more noticeably once he has rifles etc.

Hopefully I will have a pic of the 2nd officer as well in the coming days.

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No problems Mathew and great result from all.

I suggest for the character miniature if we don't get to the ncos pack is a nco with Thompson. If we get to the nco pack with Thompsons could be a platoon Sergeant (rifle) with two ncos with Thompsons.

Just some thoughts.

Helen

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