28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

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should this range be in 28mm size or 40mm size

Poll ended at Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:57 pm

40mm
3
25%
40mm
3
25%
28mm
3
25%
28mm
3
25%
 
Total votes: 12

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Cardinal Biggles » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:25 pm

I don't think copyright is an issue..he has been dead a long time...

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Admin Fella » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:56 pm

Up to you guys what you want. For me, i am not really worried about it outside wargamming, I struggle to manage what i have let alone looking to expand into a whole alternate market, so i am happy to do it in 28mm if that is what you want. :)

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Dropbear » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:10 pm

Sounds like we need a poll on this one... can polls be made on this forum?

Suggested Poll answers:

28mm
40mm
would prefer 28 mm but will go with 40mm if that is the only scale made
would prefer 40 mm but will go with 28mm if that is the only scale made
I'm easy - just want to wargame Bushrangers

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Cardinal Biggles » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:15 pm

I think these people have been
1 Dead a long time
2, and are public figures, not creations of animation studios so I don'r think copyright is an issue.. it is a bit like making a miniature of Napoleon or the Kaiser..nobody owns them..now if it was Winnie the Pooh you would be in deep shit..

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by greatwhitezulu » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:23 pm

No Copyright/ Intellectual issues at all with this. No one owns the rights to the design/ appearance of Kelly's armour or the way a trap looked, or what Hall anors looked like.
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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Cardinal Biggles » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:58 pm

Poll on!!!!

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by starkadder » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:14 pm

For what it's worth, I've voted for 40mm but I'd also go with 28mm.

I believe that 40mm is a more generally saleable option for markets outside our own merry band.

And a financially viable Battlescape is more fun than one just bumping along.

I also believe, after posting here for some time, that some of you, at least, have some marketing nous. If we are to keep developing this thing, our thing, our hobby, then we need to think about how to reach out to people who haven't thought about this type of thing before.

Cardinal Biggles

Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Cardinal Biggles » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:24 pm

what is a "Hall anors", it sounds worrying

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by starkadder » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:36 pm

They were a very close gang. Biddie Hall felt left out.

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Dropbear » Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:56 am

starkadder wrote:I also believe, after posting here for some time, that some of you, at least, have some marketing nous. If we are to keep developing this thing, our thing, our hobby, then we need to think about how to reach out to people who haven't thought about this type of thing before.

:lol: Not me... My Doctor and Psychologist can verify that :lol:

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by starkadder » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:23 am

Now listen here, Dropbear.

You were one of the people I had in mind.

Don't disappoint the rergiment with unsteady behaviour.

We leave that sort of behaviour to the annual Mess Dinner. :)

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Cardinal Biggles » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:56 am

where are we with this? is it going to be listed for pre sale looks like a simple 50/50 split on the size thing..if in doubt 1/56 or 28mm seeems the way to go..lets get this one running..

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Dropbear » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:29 am

as much as 40mm would be cool, I think 28mm would attract more 'punters' wanting to buy them for wargames.

I say we go with 28mm.

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Cardinal Biggles » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:31 am

I have been following the discussion on TMP, think so to..

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Dropbear » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:51 am

:lol: me too - and piper909 obviously wasn't talking about me in his last reply :lol:

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by CdM » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:32 am

I'm in for at least 1 of anything in 28mm, possibly more after I see them made. 40mm bores me to tears.

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Bluewillow » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:21 pm

For Me

Ned Kelly Gang: Armoured 1 of each
Ned Kelly Gang Unarmoured 1

Ma Kelly (dismounted): 1
Ben Hall: 1
Captain Thunderbolt: 1
Captain Starlight: 1
John Gilbert: 1
Civilians - various age and gender: 10
Mounted Police: 10
Sgt Kennedy & other Police personalities:1 of each
Aboriginal Trackers: 2 one in police uniform one with shirt only
Mad Dog Morgan: 1
Frederick Pottinger: 1
Matra (with cooking pot) :
Pemulwuy:1
Generic Bushranger (i.e. not a famous one - good for sidekicks or fodder): 6

some further reading
http://www.nedkellysworld.com.au/index.html

I will do some research and come up with some pictures, along with the armoured Gold State Bank wagons and the cobb and co coach.


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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Helen » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:45 pm

I just copied Matt's humble request as a guide for my request. I'd like them designed in 28 mm to fit in with my range of scenics. However, there are certain scenics that are unique to Australia. I do have a booklet on 'York's Police Station' which has some excellent building plans.

For me too:

Ned Kelly Gang: Armoured 1 of each
Ned Kelly Gang Unarmoured 1

Ma Kelly (dismounted): 1
Ben Hall: 1
Captain Thunderbolt: 1
Captain Starlight: 1
John Gilbert: 1
Civilians - various age and gender: 10
Mounted Police: 10 - does that included dismounted?
Sgt Kennedy & other Police personalities:1 of each
Aboriginal Trackers: 2 one in police uniform one with shirt only
Mad Dog Morgan: 1
Frederick Pottinger: 1
Matra (with cooking pot) :
Pemulwuy:1

Brigade Games are releasing a civilian generic tender this year so this would be welcoming for this period too. A train is always nice on the table top.

Explorers? Has anyone thought about this? You add in some aboriginals with weapon variant as well for Australiana gaming.

We can have the best of both worlds here.

Does everyone remember "Utu" set on the North Island of NZ in 1870 ish between the wars - This is a good flick and one that I'm sure our neighbours across the ditch might be interested too! Not only you have police, trackers, soldiers , but a little mortar.

Great ideas guys and thanks muchly.

Chow,

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by greatwhitezulu » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:22 pm

Not know what happened here - I seem to have missed all the posts since 24 December!

Good to see that sanity will prevail and that 40mm should be given a silver bullet and covered in wolfsbane! 28mm for me....
No Longer The Maharajah of Golconda
But still THE Greatwhitezulu
The Liberator, The Sitting Thunder
The Bull Elephant, Breaker of Tyrants
The Cunning Leopard, Father of the Sky
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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Dropbear » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:44 pm

Ok, i have updated the tallies, but i rather think i may have botched it up :( could the interested parties please read over the tallies and PM me to let me know if i have their display of interest correct.

Also, i was wondering if we could have a special part of the forum (a sub forum) dedicated to bushrangers for the discussion of various "bushranger-ry" type things, such as history, links and even rule suggestions (hmm a group build for rules? Do we want a LOTOW variant [no thanks], or write a set of rules between us? :lol: that is sure to spark discussion :P ) and so on?

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by starkadder » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:04 pm

What about a 28mm Luddite figure?

What on earth is the venom about 40mm?

If it gets them done then 28mm is my vote.

My 40mm suggestion was merely a sleazy marketing ploy for alternative selling venues.

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Dropbear » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:07 pm

starkadder wrote:What about a 28mm Luddite figure?

You know, some 28mm Luddites would be great for a wargame.... :D

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by greatwhitezulu » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:09 pm

starkadder wrote:What about a 28mm Luddite figure?
Happy to model for it!

Nothing personal Starkers! Just my dislike of getting into another scale :x
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But still THE Greatwhitezulu
The Liberator, The Sitting Thunder
The Bull Elephant, Breaker of Tyrants
The Cunning Leopard, Father of the Sky
Siiii-Giiii-Diiii

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by Cardinal Biggles » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:43 pm

I don't think that Ned Lud actually existed.. Luddites were some thing of an invention..interestingly Ned Lud is associated with the Celtic god of the dead , who gave his name to London..a convenient term of derision by people who were busy in destroying centuries of social life and craft work in pursuing their interests in making vast amounts of money..no wonder the workers threw their clogs into the machines.. who wouldn't, interestingly a lot of east end rag trade people had lost their jobs to industrialisation and many of the younger weavers ended up as troopers in the 15th light Dragons at Emsdorf, even then it had a very Jewish element to the trade, would be interesting to see a roll of the troopers of the time..

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Re: 28mm Bushrangers, troopers and trackers

Post by starkadder » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:08 pm

I was just intrigued, possum.

I'm still bitter about the whole 25/28mm conversion.

and the loss of the minim and the groat.

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